They are worried about the environment. They have a natural sense – a natural link with nature. Maybe they don't know how to get out of the problem, but they have the link with the earth. They are not indifferent. Yeah, they are worried about what is happening.

We have worked with them with love, with respect, with faith, with huge amounts of happiness, too, because those are my tools. I really think they work.

We have beautiful people at Sierra Gorda. It makes possible all this possibility for the area. In one of these communities before we had the decree, I went with them, and I said, "My friends, this land is yours. If it is decreed as a core area, you may not touch it, but it's up to you. If you don't want us to include it in our proposal, you may take it out."

In the most poor community you may [imagine] – and this man, he is the president of that community – he went with his friends and they talked. And afterwards, he came, so formally, and he said, "Maestra, we think that it must be dedicated or committed to conservation."

It's not hard to get the civil participation, no? They are waiting for someone to come and say, "Here, we have a trouble. Let's do this and that."

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